Cult, Shmult (10 Friendly Suggestions)

Personally I find evangelical Christianity every bit the cult that Mormonism is, so the current wrangling over whether Mormonism is sufficiently Christian or not is little bit like Star Trek fans arguing with Star Wars fans over which series is “starrier.”

I’ve  been ambivalent the past few days regarding the whole “CULT!” controversy going on in the media. Religion shouldn’t even be a part of the political dialogue.

But it is.

I don’t throw around the C word like some evangelical Christians out there, although I did write my own opinion of whether the LDS church is a cult or not years ago.  It can be found HERE.

For those too lazy or unwilling to click, I basically took a cult expert’s definition of a cult, line by line, and commented on whether or not it applies to Mormonism or not based on my experience. The idea being that if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, no matter what you call it, it’s a duck….not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Merely saying that Mormons are nice, happy and good citizens is irrelevant in my opinion. There are plenty of Scientologists and Moonies that fit that bill too.

The catch is that you can’t really tell from the inside. I’d venture that there’s never been one cult member to ever fess up and say, “OK! I’m in a cult.” Self-protestations are as meaningless as the accusations themselves. So when a Mormon today throws a tantrum about how they’re being persecuted for being called a cult, when they’re really not a cult, I say that they really wouldn’t be able to tell from the inside.

Likewise, a cult by my definition, is an organization which takes away or diminishes a person’s individuality. It’s a sliding scale rather than an either/or. It may therefore be a worse cult to some than to others.

Mainstreaming  in significant ways to appear less cult-like isn’t unheard of in Mormonism by any means.  In 1990 they removed some creepy cult-like elements from the temple ceremony.  When I went through for the first time in 1984, we pantomimed our own deaths as a large group by pretending to slit our throats and disembowel ourselves. This was done as part of a promise to keep everything we were doing secret and to underscore the depth of our commitment.

It sounds really cult-like when I say it like that, but your sweetest, kindest Mormon next door did this regularly without batting an eye and had no personal concept of HOW cult-like it was.

So, here’s my unsolicited advice to all those Mormon leaders out there who will never read this or deign to listen as to how they could actually change to appear less culty in the public’s eyes. Cult or not, the outside impression is what really matters. And so here’s a view from the outside looking back in:

  1. Incorporate community service as a regular part of your worship rather than as publicity stunt. Make this service significant to those who are not of your faith rather than almost exclusively those within it.

Growing up we did a lot of “service projects” in the youth group. I’ve helped a bajillion families move as an Elder’s Quorum member. As ward Relief Society president my Mom was constantly arranging for meals for a sick ward member’s family.  But all this was almost exclusively to the benefit of other Mormons. Mormons are really good at taking care of each other, but are timid about real meaningful outward facing service. Other mainstream religions are much better at it.

Of course in a natural disaster, Mormons will show up and wear T-shirts advertising their efforts, but as a percentage of their expenditures of time and money, this sort of thing as a tiny drop in the bucket.

On my mission, service took zero percent of our time. I understand they encourage service for missionaries now, but it would actually make a mission more meaningful and less cult-like for THAT to be the purpose of a mission rather than proselytizing. A mission even as it now operates only serves the Mormon institution, not humanity. Cults put enormous efforts into recruiting. Getting converts makes you no more or less right.

Mormons serving in a cannery. These ladies were most likely ASSIGNED to do this.

2.  Actually put families first, any family.

You can’t get any more cult appearing than telling a non-Mormon parent that she/he can’t attend a son or daughter’s wedding. Period.  No further explanation needed other than to recite one of the 10 Commandments – “Thou Shalt Honor Thy Father and Mother” – and note that the LDS Church encourages its members to dismiss it when they treat mothers and fathers in this way.

Putting rites and ordinances above family relationships encourages the same sort of disrespect towards non-member family.  There’s no reason any father or mother couldn’t bless  his or her own newborn together with an Elder…or participate in a baptism. That would bind the family together. Instead, in Mormonism it’s now much more important to bind the individual to the church and create an atmosphere of disappointment towards non-believing family members.

Also, It’s one thing to encourage your own values and morals among the families of your followers. It’s another thing to prefer a child in the larger community have unmarried parents or no parents rather than 2 married parents who aren’t following your special colloquial brand of morality. There are plenty of churches who believe in gay marriage, for example.  How does your opposition in the public realm “let them worship how where and what they may”?

3.  Take the whole “Follow the Prophet” thing down a notch.

You can CLAIM to worship only Jesus, and it has been good to see your efforts to actually walk the walk by removing non-biblical art from your chapels, revamping the official logo and such, but there’s a LONG way to go. Even a non-Christian visiting your services doesn’t see a whole lot of Christianity.  Your members’ homes have YOUR pictures right up there with Jesus for crying out loud. In practice, they obey your word above Jesus Christ’s. They talk about you like you ARE Jesus and you do nothing to discourage that.

4.  Initiate checks and balances into your organization to account for the humanity of  the human beings running it. In mainstream religions this looks like: Public financial reports, allowing public dissent without fear of excommunication, voting on policy by the membership.

As the saying goes, “Catholic doctrine states that the Pope is infallible but Catholics don’t really believe it. Mormon doctrine states that their Prophet is fallible, but Mormons don’t really believe it.”

In the Bible and Book of Mormon, prophets made mistakes and were often corrected by the laity.  In today’s church however the prevailing opinion is that prophets can miraculously do no wrong. That is until they are dead. Then, Mormons become even better than apostates at disregarding a prophet’s teachings.

Fiscal transparency is probably the biggest hurdle Mormonism needs to overcome in the quest to shed all things cultish.

5. Seriously, you need to cut the “sacred, not secret” bit.

Nobody buys it. And don’t you find it ironic that former prophets couldn’t keep their mouth shut about a LOT of weird shit they supposedly experienced?  Joseph Smith, Paul, Moses and Brigham Young all had diarrhea of the mouth. But I’m supposed to buy that Thomas Monson and company have experienced something so far out there that they can’t talk about it? Come on….

Their specific callings are to be “Special Witnesses”. That alone pretty much demolishes any claim that you can’t talk about something because it’s “too sacred.”

Even with the average member, it’s ironic that they only need to keep quiet about the weird stuff.

If you were Christians, you’d see the atonement as the most sacred event to ever take place… so why are you SUPPOSED to share that with people?

Admit it… Sacred stuff is SUPPOSED to be shared.

Weird stuff is supposed to be kept secret.

6.  If your actions regarding respect for womanhood and equality matched your lip-service, I’d feel better about my daughters being raised Mormon.

An all male priesthood is neither scriptural or respectful towards women. Likewise, motherhood is a natural impulse and most of your young female members will want it regardless. By your confining that role to a one-size-fits all image of womanhood you are actually disrespecting my daughters’ individuality. Put your energy into helping her be a good woman with integrity and the motherhood thing will fall into place quite naturally.  When you focus her sights solely on that, however, you diminish her potential as a contributing member of humanity. A dog can be a mom. A woman could likewise be an awesome Mom and a CEO of her company, or bishop of her local ward.

7. Scrap the dress code regulations…

Think about it….cult members dress alike, people in a mainstream religion don’t.

These sorts of things take care of themselves.  People naturally want to dress alike.  If today you said, “Forget everything we’ve ever said about grooming and dress” nothing would really change. Gradually some individuality would creep in to the grooming of your members, but you know what? If it does, then reality will actually begin to match what you yourselves are trying to portray in those “I am a Mormon” commercials.

The second problem with these silly dress and style regulations is that they always inevitably become outdated. You shoot yourselves in the foot when you encourage the white shirt, one earring, dresses not pants, etc… Even the required missionary attire looks silly in today’s world. It also belies the confidence your own founder had in the the membership to be able to govern themselves after being taught “correct principles.”

8. Be more cross-cultural and adaptable internationally.

The structure and content of a Mormon worship service looks and feels late 19th/early 20th century North American no matter where you go in the world. This is great for traveling Americans and Canadians (especially for you Mormon leaders) because we feel right at home in Brazil, Japan, Nigeria or the Philippines. But what ends up happening is that it really only attracts the citizens of those countries who are interested in all things American.  To everyone else, the Mormons just seem like a North American cult transplanted to their homeland.

There’s nothing universal about the organ or piano music, white shirts and ties, or LDS artwork. If the dress, the music, the behavior of the congregation and even the architecture of LDS building reflected local customs you would look and feel less like “American Moonies” and more like a relevant world religion.

This congregation is in Africa but it could just as well be in Detroit or Atlanta.

9. Allow and encourage individual freedom among the rank and file.

Now, I know you’re not going to get this one without a lot on pondering. A regular Mormon won’t get this. Real mainstream Christian religions allow significantly more individual adaptation than Mormonism does.

A Catholic can attend mass anywhere he/she feels comfortable. Mormons have to attend their assigned geographic ward like a elementary school child is told where to go to school.

A Methodist can actually volunteer in church where and when they are personally interested and motivated .  Mormons are assigned jobs and callings without the opportunity to volunteer and with no consideration of their own desires. What you end up with are scout leaders who would rather be ward clerks and ward clerks who would rather be scout leaders. All of them with a silent frustration and resentment that their free time and talents are being strong-armed by church leaders.

It looks very master-planned, socialist,  and cult-like from the outside.

It would be cool if Mormons teachers had actually volunteered for the job. She was probably assigned and it's hit or miss whether she really wants to do it or not.

10. Institute paid, professional Clergy

Mormons already pay their clergy.  You, the General Authorities are paid and yet the rank and file still imagine you are not. It’s therefore not doctrinal to keep this established image of a lay clergy. A paid clergy is solidly within the bounds of Mormon history and doctrine… and Christianity. Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, apostles, Patriarchs, Bishops and Stake Presidents all have received significant compensation for their callings in the past.

Somehow over the life of the LDS faith, the church has managed to establish this myth of a lay clergy to the point that it is really only true for those at the lowest points of the hierarchy. You end up with the folks doing the real ground-work being overworked but uncompensated… a very big, flashing red flag for a cult… underpaid and overworked followers.

A significant side effect of this institutional behavior is an unqualified clergy. If you pay people a living salary to perform your most significant work, education and training follow naturally. Imagine a Mormon teenager approaching her bishop for counseling and actually getting a trained professional rather than an amateur, unprepared, but well-meaning neighbor!

A professional clergy could only improve or enhance what have become drab and corporate-like Mormon meetings.  Everyone wins…and together with suggestion #9 you would be creating a free market for the best clergy and more engaged membership.

No reason she couldn't be a paid Mormon bishop... try calling it a cult THEN!

About dadsprimalscream

I am a divorced father of 4 children. I'm a post-Mormon. I am a gay man. This blog is my "primal scream" as watch my children faithfully indoctrinated with thought-terminating experiences and mind-lulling pressure... and how my rowboat of reason doesn't stand a chance against the religious and emotional battleship in their daily lives. How do you stand by and watch delusion take hold? Intervention seems to just push them farther into the hypnotic embrace of their mother religion.
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14 Responses to Cult, Shmult (10 Friendly Suggestions)

  1. texcommando says:

    The next time I try to say something, I’ll just have you do it for me.

    Excellent. Just excellent.

  2. Beck says:

    After reading this and pondering, I am beginning to see how others view my faith as a cult. Thanks for the thought-inspiring writing.

    • Beck – when I first read your comment I thought you might be speaking sarcastically. Then, I checked your blog and from the tone of your writing there I can tell that was a sincere comment. THANKS. I appreciate your honesty and will be reading more of your blog in the future as well.

  3. james says:

    That. Was. Awesome.

    So very well done.

  4. Lucy says:

    I am interested in the idea of compensation for the GAs. Do you have sources for that? I keep hearing about it, but don’t have anything concrete to show my husband. I’ve never heard that JS/BY/etc were compensated either.

    • I’ll get you some references tomorrow, but the one I can remember off the top of my head is Quinn’s Mormon Heirarchy series. Some good reliable information there

      Think about it though…. Joseph Smith was born in a cabin and when he died his family was living in a place called The Mansion House.

      Brigham young lived like a king off of the church. Quinn details his estate when he died.

      Info on current GAs is largely anecdotal but that they get paid is no question.

  5. Amy says:

    This is a great post! Your previous post was also really helpful. I think I’ll print them, laminate them, and carry them around to explain to Mormon’s why they are perceived as cult-ish. I’ve never been able to calmly, clearly, and succinctly express my views on the matter, but with these posts, you’ve done it splendidly. I tend to get too worked up. Thanks!

    • Quinn’s 2 book series called The Mormon Hierarchy will be your best bet. The first one, “Origins of Power” talks about how JS’ Dad got paid for giving patriarchal blessings and the Bishops Storehouses were originally to compensate bishops for their time. The second part “Extensions of Power” talks a little of the current salary arrangement for GAs. A few points:

      *These folks probably could make more by NOT being GA’s. They’re not getting the money of filthy rich CEOs…but they are making more than you and I most likely when you take into account all the perks…housing, travel etc…

      *Mission Presidents, and full-time General Authorities all get paid (again I’m not arguing that they are filthy rich. The point is only that they are getting paid and the membership doesn’t know it).

      *Many GA’s past and present have made careers out of their church work…. Gordon B Hinckley, for example, Boyd K Packer (I think has always been a church employee CES), Anyone leader in the past with the last name “Smith”

      *In spite of this, the general membership continues to believe that “we have no paid clergy.” It’s just not true.

  6. Smorg says:

    You know, I’ve been avoiding using the c word with my missionary sisters… They all seem quite hypersensitive to it. The few times that it popped up in our conversations have been when they’d blurt something out about their not being in a cult or how people tend to think that their religion is weird or a cult. :P Whenever they do that I get that same feeling I get when I hear the various testimony givers going to pieces trying to end their talk with ‘I know that this is the true church and Joseph Smith is the true prophet’ thingy.

    Sometimes I think they’re all afflicted with church-induced Stockholm Syndrome… :P

    Great write (as always), dad!

    • Yeah, I’d never use the C word with a believing member. It’ll just shut off their brain and close down communication.

      Another weird thing I’ve noticed that Mormons do that others don’t… Ask an individual Mormon what he/she believes on a given topic and the response will be almost identical no matter who you ask. They’ll start with, “We believe that….”

      I’ll say, “No I want to know what YOU believe, not what the church teaches.”

      They’ll just go back into the same rehearsed response. Maybe they’ll replace the pronouns to make you happy, but you’ll not get diverse answers individual by individual like you would from members of any other mainstream religions.

      I say only that a non cult-like religion would have more diversity of thought and opinion on a variety of topics and the members would be unafraid to express diverse thought

  7. Interrobang says:

    No, don’t give them ideas on how to make their religion more effective! It’ll just mean more Mormons around! As an atheist who would like to see religion demoted to, say, the status of knitting or historical reenactment, I’m not into the idea of optimising religious practices for maximal efficiency and efficacy.

    By the way, some women can grow up “good” and with “integrity” and *still* not want kids. Or a monogamous heteronormative nuclear-family type relationship, cute house, two cars, and white picket fence only slightly optional. (Personally, I’m straight, but the idea of doing that with my life still makes me hurl.) The Mormons kind of need to work on *that* idea, too. I realise that for most people (especially patriarchally religious people), the idea of a woman with a literal vocation other than motherhood (and excluding motherhood) is still kind of strange, but we’re out here, we’re not any more “unnatural” than anyone else. Which is *sigh* not a slam on people who have kids, just the idea that childfree people were somehow raised wrong or are unnatural and whatever.

    • Well, I still have loved ones who are heavily involved with Mormonism. Ideally they’d get out, yes. But the fact is that it is unlikely in the short term. Mormons could do a lot to change for my children’s sake for example. If things stay the way they are and my girls remain Mormon there’s a good chance I wouldn’t be able to be at their wedding. I’d like them to avoid marrying a gay man as another example. I’d also like them to achieve their dream, motherhood or no motherhood as you stated it doesn’t matter.

      It’s disheartening to already see my 12 year old daughter think that marriage and motherhood are her only worthwhile options. I’m trying to speak to that and say, “You can have that but you can achieve your dreams too.” Like you said, no motherhood should be a viable option but from where they stand that’s so incomprehensible.

      Thanks for visiting my blog and commenting, Inerrobang.

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